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Rule status: Proposed

Agency: TLC

Comment by date: January 11, 2023

Rule Full Text
TLC-Amendment-of-For-Hire-Vehicle-License-Rules_FINAL_12_08_22.pdf

The Taxi and Limousine Commission (“TLC”, “the Commission”) is proposing amendments to the rules that govern new for-hire vehicle licenses by creating a new electric vehicle license that would be restricted to individual drivers to use with electric vehicles.

Attendees who need reasonable accommodation for a disablity such as a sign language translation should contact the agency by calling 1 (212) 676-1135 or emailing by January 6, 2023

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  • Email: tlcrules@tlc.nyc.gov
  • Fax: 1 (212) 676-1102
  • Mail: Taxi and Limousine Commission, Office of Legal Affairs, 33 Beaver Street Room/Floor: 22nd Floor ; New York, New York 10004

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Date

January 11, 2023
10:00am - 11:00am EST

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To participate in the public hearing, please e-mail the TLC at tlcrules@tlc.nyc.gov or call TLC at 212-676-1135 by January 10, 2023. After you have signed up to speak, TLC will provide you with a Zoom URL to enter in on your computer or dial-in via phone number if you prefer to call in.

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Online comments: 40

  • samiur rahman

    I am a Tlc Licensed Driver for almost Eight Years.I used to drive Yellow taxi about 6 years Now driving for Uber and Lyft about 1.5 Year.I am currently Leasing a car to drive Uber and Lyft.I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for Tlc drivers like me.We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles.Great News. I hope the rules will pass

    Comment added December 13, 2022 1:40pm
  • Yiasir Touhed

    I am a Tlc Licensed Driver for almost Eight Years.I am driving for Uber and Lyft about 6 Year.I am currently Leasing a car to drive Uber and Lyft.I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for Tlc drivers like me.We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles.Great News. I hope the rules will pass

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    Comment added December 15, 2022 2:02am
  • Shaun Haq

    This is the comment under review:
”I am a Tlc Licensed Driver for almost Eight Years.I am driving for Uber and Lyft about 1 Year.I am currently Leasing a car to drive Uber and Lyft.I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for Tlc drivers like me.We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles.Great News. I hope the rules will pass”

    Comment added December 15, 2022 2:16am
  • Anowar Hossain

    I have been driving for Uber for 7 years in nyc.

    Comment added December 15, 2022 2:35am
  • Anowar Hossain

    This is the comment under review:
”I am a Tlc Licensed Driver for almost Eight Years.I am driving for Uber and Lyft about 6 Year.I am currently Leasing a car to drive Uber and Lyft.I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for Tlc drivers like me.We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles.Great News. I hope the rules will pass”

    Comment added December 15, 2022 2:38am
  • Sohel Khan

    This is the comment under review:
”I am a Tlc Licensed Driver for almost Eight Years.I am driving for Uber and Lyft about 6 Year.I am currently Leasing a car to drive Uber and Lyft.I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for Tlc drivers like me.We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles.Great News. I hope the rules will pass”

    Comment added December 15, 2022 10:23pm
  • SYED MONIR

    “I am a Tlc Licensed Driver over 10 Years.I am driving for Uber and Lyft about 2.5Year. Before I am driving yellow taxi almost 8 years and I am currently Leasing a car to drive Uber and Lyft.I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for Tlc drivers like me.We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles.Great News. I hope the rules will pass”

    Comment added December 17, 2022 12:03pm
  • SYED MN ISLAM

    This is comment under review
    I am a TLC licensed Driver for almost 20 years , im driving for Uber& Lyft abut 12 years currently I don’t have any plate ,im ranting car ,and I think the proposed rules to issue 1000 FHV licenses is great news for TLC drivers like meee have been Lessing vehicles the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicle great news I hope the rules will pass

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    Comment added December 17, 2022 1:55pm
  • Shafiqul Islam

    “I am a Tlc Licensed Driver for almost Eight Years.I am driving for Uber and Lyft about 6 Year.I am currently Leasing a car to drive Uber and Lyft.I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for Tlc drivers like me.We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles.Great News. I hope the rules will pass”

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    Comment added December 19, 2022 6:38pm
  • Md Golam shamdany

    
”I am a Tlc Licensed Driver for almost Eight Years.I am driving for Uber and Lyft about 6 Year.I am currently Leasing a car to drive Uber and Lyft.I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for Tlc drivers like me.We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles.Great News. I hope the rules will pass”

    Comment added December 19, 2022 7:37pm
  • MD NAZMUL HASSAN

    I am a TLC Licensed Driver. Currently I Leasing a car to drive. I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for TLC drivers like me. We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles. Great News. I hope the rules will pass.

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    Comment added December 22, 2022 7:15pm
  • MD TARIKUL ISLAM ANIK

    I am a TLC Licensed Driver. Currently I Leasing a car to drive. I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for TLC drivers like me. We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles. Great News. I hope the rules will pass.

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    Comment added December 22, 2022 7:20pm
  • MASTER PROBAL

    I am a TLC Licensed Driver. Currently I Leasing a car to drive. I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for TLC drivers like me. We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles. Great News. I hope the rules will pass.

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    Comment added December 22, 2022 7:28pm
  • SABIR AHAMED

    I have renting tlc car for last 4 years. Also I am full time student at queens College and I have family in New York city if I get tkc plate it will life saving for me….

    Comment added December 23, 2022 8:52pm
  • MD ABDUL MALEK

    I am a TLC Licensed Driver. Currently I Leasing a car to drive. I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for TLC drivers like me. We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles. Great News. I hope the rules will pass.

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    Comment added December 24, 2022 8:07pm
  • MD ABDUL HAMID

    I am a TLC Licensed Driver. Currently I Leasing a car to drive. I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for TLC drivers like me. We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles. Great News. I hope the rules will pass.

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    Comment added December 29, 2022 8:43pm
  • AHMAD AL MULTAJIM

    I am a TLC Licensed Driver. Currently I Leasing a car to drive. I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for TLC drivers like me. We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles. Great News. I hope the rules will pass.

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    Comment added December 29, 2022 8:51pm
  • Somojit Saha

    This is the comment under review:
”I am a Tlc Licensed Driver for almost Eight Years.I am driving for Uber and Lyft about 6 Year.I am currently Leasing a car to drive Uber and Lyft.I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for Tlc drivers like me.We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles.Great News. I hope the rules will pass”

    Comment added January 4, 2023 1:13am
  • Guseyn Ishankuliyev

    For first generation immigrant like me that leases for almost 2 years, that’s big news and would be huge help to build my future in this country and be financially independent member of society.

    Comment added January 4, 2023 11:19pm
  • Narayan Kumar Das

    This is the comment under review:
”I am a Tlc Licensed Driver for almost Eight Years.I am driving for Uber and Lyft about 6 Year.I am currently Leasing a car to drive Uber and Lyft.I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for Tlc drivers like me.We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles.Great News. I hope the rules will pass”

    Comment added January 5, 2023 3:05am
  • Anirudha Saha

    This is the comment under review:
”I am a Tlc Licensed Driver for almost Eight Years.I am driving for Uber and Lyft about 6 Year.I am currently Leasing a car to drive Uber and Lyft.I think the Proposed rules to issue 1,000 FHV licenses is great news for Tlc drivers like me.We have been Leasing a vehicle the opportunity to own instead of lease a licensed TLC vehicles.Great News. I hope the rules will pass”

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    Comment added January 5, 2023 1:27pm
  • Sonam Gurung

    Dear Sir/ Madam,
    I have been driving FHV for my living.Right now the rent for a car is around 500 dollars for a week.So the yearly rent will be 24000 dollars . The car will last for at least 5 years. So in total we have been paying more than half of our income to these rental companies.May be you will suggest to get wheel chair accessible car, then I like to mention I found out that the the WAV car cost almost double than regular sedan and they asked me down payment at first 30,000 Dollars. Could you please help me how can I uplift my living in these situations .
    Sincerely yours,
    Sonam Gurung

    Comment added January 5, 2023 5:40pm
  • Mohammad Zahidur Rahman

    1. Personal/ individual vehicle can’t be rented to someone else. If the person is not active for few months the registration will be automatically cancelled or revoked.
    If anyone renting the personal TLC plate to someone else , their TLC plate can be suspended or they can be fined. Only incorporation plate can be rented.
    2. City has put a limit that’s why they are no longer giving out TLC plates for regular vehicles. However, the plates that have been returned or revoked can be reissued to new drivers. People can always do the application and be on the waiting list. Whenever a plate is available, it can be issued to new drivers on waiting list. This way future generation or new TLC driver can get their chance to drive their own car with their own TLC plate.
    3. If someone with a TLC plate not registered to Uber, lyft ,or any other base for certain time, their license plate will be revoked. They can’t hold the license plate if it does not get registered within a certain time. Give others a chance.
    4. If city wishes to give plates for certain types of vehicle, such as wheelchair accessible vehicle, electric vehicles, etc, these plates can be always accessible for drivers.

    Comment added January 6, 2023 3:06pm
  • Nicolas Martinez

    Dear TLC administration!
    I think that before starting talking about electric vehicles, we need to create the supercharger network all around the the NYC.
    I live in an apartment building in Manhattan and an electric vehicle is not an option for me because the public electric chargers take 6 and 8 hours to charge as car

    Comment added January 6, 2023 8:00pm
  • Jose Perez

    I’ve been driving a TLC car for about ten years and I am willing to make the transition to an electric car. However, we need more charging stations all over the city if electric cars were to be implemented. Not only that, but we need faster charges, ideally ones that have the ability to charge the car in 10 to 30 minutes being that waiting a long time to charge the car is a huge inconvenience.

    Comment added January 7, 2023 8:29am
  • Juan Castillo

    I have been a TLC driver for the last 15 years. The idea of creating a new electric vehicle license that would be restricted to individual drivers to use with electric vehicles sounds great In theory. But where is the infrastructure that would make this feasible for drivers like me? Right now the only publicly accessible charging locations in Manhattan for example are destination charge sites that take several hours to charge a vehicle! That’s not feasible for taxi drivers! There’s only one super charge location in Manhattan and it is located inside a private parking garage!

    Before we move forward with this idea let’s address the lack of super charge options in the city first!

    Comment added January 7, 2023 9:36am
  • Justin lopez

    Before proceeding with this proposal, something has to be done about the locations to charge the electrical cars. There’s a lot of charging stations but the problem is that they are slow charging and can take 10-12 hours to charge your car. However, we need more public charging locations that can charge your car faster between 10-30 minutes in Manhattan where most cab drivers are most of the time. I would like to buy an electrical car but until we don’t have faster chargers accessible I won’t buy one because it is a waste of time and money.

    Comment added January 7, 2023 10:00am
  • German

    Se necesitan más cargadores eléctricos de urgencia en Manhattan.

    Comment added January 7, 2023 3:14pm
  • MaximoV

    More electric charges are needed not only in Manhattan, but in the Bronx.

    Comment added January 8, 2023 8:52am
  • Plinio cepin

    Necesitamos más cargadores en la ciudad.

    Comment added January 8, 2023 3:44pm
  • Cirilo Mata

    There is just not enough chargers for the amount of electric cars in Manhattan.

    Comment added January 8, 2023 9:59pm
  • Oliver urena

    I have a Tesla model Y since 2021 and I’m thinking of selling it because I’m spending a lot of work charging my vehicle because in New York City they don’t have super chargers of more than 70kwh and you have to pay for private packaging. It is vitally important to significantly increase access of the same

    Comment added January 9, 2023 8:48am
  • Robert Camilo

    There is just not enough chargers for electric cars in Manhattan.

    Comment added January 9, 2023 2:01pm
  • Dawood Mian

    As recently as 2014, taxi medallion auctions netted the City hundreds of millions for its budget. In other words, wouldn’t it be nice to regain a mechanism where one could raise millions of dollars by auctioning a City asset that has a clear need for a regulated supply cap🤔…from congestion considerations to protecting commercially licensed NYC TLC driver earnings. This is quite literally the main reasons behind why the taxi medallion and FHV vehicle supply cap mechanisms exist! It’s important to go back to first principles, go back to the origin of the medallion system in 1937 and why it was created.

    While it may be a while before any new taxi medallions are auctioned off, the City can at least temporarily reclaim this financial mechanism, via auctioning off the 400 EV-only FHV licenses reserved for corporations. If the TLC structures the auction in a “One Plate, One LLC” structure, our estimate it the City can easily raise north of $10 million! This money, in turn, can help fund the regulator’s electrification goals, from fast charging stations to providing drivers help in purchasing EVs.

    In addition, and as a concession to traditional black car & livery bases, we also believe these 400 EV-only TLC Plates should actually be “EV or Hybrid-only” FHV Licenses. Most traditional Black Car & Livery Bases, based on their own guidance, are not ready to adopt electric vehicles at this exact moment. Therefore, if you allowed those bases a chance to bid for an FHV License that they can attach a Hybrid vehicle to (i.e., first 3 to 5 years can be hybrid, before they need to switch to EV), you (1) will help them meet their immediate client demand and (2) will likely even raise more money at the auction!

    To allocate 400 EV-only TLC Plates to corporate entities on a “first come, first serve” basis(!) and no limit per entity(!), in our view, is not good policy and will likely be subject to claims of unfair dealings. For example, if it is revealed (via publicly available NYC Open Data) that Revel managed to acquire a large chunk of these new EV-only TLC Plates, there will likely be a lot of driver backlash, whether fair or unfair. To be clear, we aren’t accusing Revel of backroom dealings and we think they have every right to expand their business within the TLC’s given regulatory framework.

    We also think the TLC can use the current unique backdrop to partially reclaim a financial mechanism it once had with taxi medallions. A mechanism that historically helped the City raise hundreds of millions of dollars. In turn the money raised, as mentioned, can further promote TLC’s overall electrification goals.

    Finally, an auction will make clear that the regulator very carefully considers ANY & ALL future FHV License issuances of any kind, until taxi medallion values and driver earnings recover to a healthy level. Remember, any issuance of more TLC Plates will impact medallion values. Although medallions aren’t being auctioned, they will want to see some mechanism to prevent further FHV License issuances.

    Comment added January 10, 2023 11:32am
  • Haque

    Please I would like to know how can I apply for new EV TLC plate or new TLC plate

    Comment added January 10, 2023 6:30pm
  • Nafizul hoque

    Peace be upon you all my name is Nafizul I have been an active TLC driver for the last seven years and I do this as my full time job although I missed the opportunity to have my own TLC plate because at the time I was not financially Stable to buy a car and at the same time take care of my family and I did not get any support To maintain a TLC even mentally understand the value of it at the time and I wish I was able to drive my own TLC plate as I value my job. Renting a TLC plate is sort of expensive now although I have to work more and still get less than what I think I deserve it would be the greatest Reward for me to have my own TLC license plate thank you so much and I respect you all.

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    Comment added January 11, 2023 9:03am
  • Mohammed islam

    Yeah

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  • Sam Jurkowicz

    Commissioner Do,

    My name is Sam Jurkowicz. I am a former Uber driver and the CEO of Voyager Global Mobility, the leading provider of vehicles and services for NYC’s growing for-hire-vehicle mobility needs. I am reaching out to provide comments on the proposed amendments to the rules that will govern new for-hire vehicle licenses by creating a new electric vehicle license that would be restricted to individual drivers to use with electric vehicles.

    In my role, I work to support thousands of FHV drivers, providing them with resources and safe, up-to-date vehicles. I hear directly from drivers every day, and it is clear that the City needs to focus on converting existing FHV-licensed vehicles to EVs rather than clogging our streets with additional vehicles.

    We strongly support the TLC’s intent through these proposed rules to accelerate the conversion of the city’s FHV industry to electric vehicles. However, we believe that the TLC should add 1,000 new licenses only in 2023, and not continue to add new licenses on a yearly basis. Adding new licenses annually on our already congested and strained roads is an inefficient approach. We should focus on converting our 90,000 existing FHV licenses to electric vehicles instead.

    What’s more, New York City simply does not have the infrastructure in place to support a new influx of EV licenses. We urge the City to prioritize expanding our charging infrastructure in an equitable, functional manner that prioritizes the needs of drivers before we plan to add to the already backed-up wait times for chargers.

    As it stands, the city’s public charging network is tight and poorly distributed throughout the five boroughs. The entire city has roughly 2,000 public chargers (of which only about 120 are fast charging) for its nearly 6,000 EVs on the road, and 56% of those chargers are concentrated in Manhattan. Vehicle subscription companies, like Voyager Global Mobility, can pinpoint exactly which neighborhoods have high numbers of drivers. There are certain zip codes in Queens with 100+ clients renting for-hire-vehicles just from us — those are the areas where we need to focus our expanded EV charging infrastructure efforts.

    Despite being home to 40% of New York City’s FHV drivers, Queens has just 16% of the city’s chargers. Manhattan is home to just 8% of New York’s TLC-licensed drivers, but the disproportionate concentration of chargers there primarily benefit residents that own individual electric vehicles, not the working-class drivers of the outer boroughs who rely on this infrastructure for their livelihoods.

    We believe that new EV charging stations need to be concentrated in the outer boroughs, where FHV drivers actually live. FHV electric vehicles have to charge three times more frequently than personal cars, which are used much less frequently for fewer miles at a time.

    We commend the TLC and the City for facilitating the FHV industry’s transition to electric vehicles, but urge the TLC to consider the unintended impacts caused by congestion and infrastructure strain. Without taking these considerations into account, the proposed rules will intensify both of these already pressing problems.

    Thank you for your time and consideration.

    Best,
    Sam Jurkowicz

    Comment added January 11, 2023 10:34am
  • Mohamed Alkohshi

    I have been a NYC TLC Licensed Driver for about 8 years now. I have drove for Boro green taxi, Uber, and Lyft.
    I’m really happy to hear that the Ciy will add 1000 New EV Vehicles.
    And would really appreciate it if the City would grant me One of their Individual New EV Vehicle TLC Plates so I can purchase a My very own EV Vehicle And be able to finally own my own NYC TLC EV Vehicle and Work instead of renting. Thank you for taking the time to read this message and I hope I’ll be hearing from you soon.

    Comment added January 11, 2023 11:53am
  • Avi Shachaf

    Wednesday, January 11, 2023

    Hi,

    In regard to 1000 new electric plates proposal:

    1 – First come first serve?? There will be a “run on the bank” by thousands. It will create chaos. Possibly even system problems on your computers and lots of complaints ensuing. Even worse – It will pit drivers against each other and force us, drivers, into a rat race. This is extremely disrespectful toward us drivers.

    A more respectful way, in my opinion, will be to declare an initial window of 6 hours or 24 hours in which all drivers who submitted application are regarded equal. If there will be more than 600 applicants during that initial window then make a draw (under legal supervision) to assign a place in line to each applicant.

    After that initial time window, all later incoming applications should be registered on first come basis.

    I’m sure there will be thousands registering during the initial window and a draw will be the fairer way.

    2 – 400 to corporates is unjustified at all! You are helping create another bubble like the medallion system.

    All plates should be given to individual drivers on a LOAN basis. When a driver does not want to work anymore he can only return the plate to TLC. Not trading it like it was a bitcoin or nft of some sort.

    Corporates aggregate plates to play with them like bitcoins or NFT. That was never the stated mission of the TLC but you help those corporates time and again by giving them large chunks of plates. Why?? do they apply pressure on you with their power/money/connections?

    Please avoid making plates as a tradable commodity unto itself. It should only be a tool enabling drivers to work. Not a tool enabling rich people profit off the back of drivers.

    Thank you,

    Avi Shachaf
    hack: 402704
    phone: 646-707-6435
    email: shaffavi1@gmail.com

    Comment added January 11, 2023 12:38pm