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Fire Service Access Elevators Annunciators

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Rule status: Adopted

Agency: DOB

Effective date: February 19, 2023

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Adopted rule summary:

The Department of Buildings hereby adopts new rule sections addressing Fire Service Access Elevators annunciators (FSAE) and amendments to the rule setting forth the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) amendment relating to the national fire alarm and signaling code that add language relating to FSAE annunciators.

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Online comments: 2

  • S. Gilbert

    Hello, here is my public comment on the propose Chapter 3000 of Title 1 added section 3007-01

    Section 18.11.3 Display:
    1. With regards to Evacuation Elevator lobby heat temperature fire alarm system displays, instead of a custom annunciator, why not have a dedicated screen on the fire alarm system that instead of displaying the whole building’s status of temperatures with colored lights like with a custom annunciator showing all the elevator lobbies, that it only displays those that are above ranges and show the temperature as well. Colored lights could also be displayed too in addition for consistency if required but are not necessary. This way it is much easier for the responding FDNY so see the status of the current events without a whole big display adding confusion to items that are not part of the action taking place plus it uses less wall real estate. This alternative can be accomplished and modified when necessary without have to have a new graphic annunciator made if there is a changed needed and can easily be updated and changed. There should not be a need for FDNY review of the alternative and this change should address the alternative provided that the intent is met. The other processes are just too time consuming.

    2. Consider adding this statement:
    A temperature sensor in an elevator lobby that detects temperatures that and exceed one hundred and thirty five degrees automatically lock out the floor for access. The elevator should not go to that or other floors with that condition unless a manual bypass switch is operated at the FCC in order to avoid an accident to those fire fighters in the elevator.

    3. In item 21.5.3 (B) referring to lighting a red light for smoke detection. That should not be a requirement but an option since fire alarm systems display in a clear message on a screen the events taking place and could cause confusion.

    4. Elevator shafts should have temperature sensors as well as to provide real time conditions.

    5. With regard to the indication of a normal statue for temperature, ninety degrees and not one hundred is used so you may want to consider that change for fall in line with the rest of the country.

    6. The temperature sensor requirement should allow either, or and both fire alarm detectors and a non-fire alarm system temperature sensor that may be needed for temperatures below one hundred and thirty five degrees and state this to avoid confusion.

    7. Any associated elevator machinery and controls should also be required to have temperature sensors.

    8. There should be a requirement that there be a sensor in the elevator hoist ways that confirm that the light switch when active did in fact turn the lights on and indicate so.

    9. Stated in this revision is that existing elevators that fall within these requirements and are either updated or renovated by meeting a specified (to be stated in a percentage) are now required to meet this requirement. In many cases now this is not enforced as it should be.

    Comment added September 29, 2022 1:34pm
  • Savannah Clarkston

    Please see attachment for comment.

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    Comment added October 24, 2022 2:08pm